I agree with Jersey concerning the effectiveness of the Leviathon when dealing with the idea of crime. She said that "still many people who break laws everyday" despite the laws already put into effect. It can be seen that crime can and has existed in even the most totalitarian of states, dispite the harshest of punishments. I therefore agree with her conclusion that, although Hobbes was correct about man being naturally bad, "it seems that not even a government form of Leviathan can keep people from breaking laws".
I also agree with Roan on the corruptability of the Leviathon. As easily as the everage person can cause conflict without the Leviathon over his shoulder, the powers that be which have no one controlling them "could just as easily get in quarrels with another nation". I believe it was French philosipher Micheal de Montaigne that said that "The souls of emperors and cobblers are cast in the same mould. . . . The same reason that makes us wrangle with a neighbour causes a war betwixt princes." Likewise, the same things that cause the comman man to fight would cause the ruler of the Leviathan to fight. It is not safe to entrust the fate of a nation onto a Leviathon.
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