i do not agree with Hobbes ideas that people are naturally bad. i think people are willing to do bad things to get good out of it,which is what Machiavelli believed also, he said "the end justifies the means." and that is not always a good thing. i do not agree with this because i think all people are born good and choose to do "bad", but "bad" sometimes isnt bad in the eyes of who is doing it. it all comes down to ethics and morals, which is were Hobbes believes people have none. Hobbes says that people are born bad and will always do bad things and basically that without a strong feared leader they will not follow any rules and destroy each other. i do agree with Hobbes's idea of government though, and i liked the way Olivia compared his idea of government to her Basketball team. without a strong enforcer as a leader the people who choose to do bad will and this will cause others to start following the bad people and eventually revolt.
this is why i partially agree with Hobbes and Partially disagree
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